Refuting Universalism, part 1

This is part 1 of 2 emails that I sent to what I would call someone who teaches repentance universalism. Basically, all humanity will be saved no matter what (even Christ-deniers) but in this current life we are called to believe the Gospel and repent.

Back on Dec 9, 2005 you asked me the following question, in response to my request to be removed from your mailing list:

But have you actually red any of our postings? Do you know what it is that you are rejecting?

Yes I have read several of your writings, compared them to the word of God, and have found your stance on redemption to be in grave error. I am rejecting the lies of man. I have gone over several of your “Diabolical Doctrines” and was troubled to see you claim the following:

“Annihilation? No. Eternal torment? No. Absolute redemption for all? Yes, to the glory of God the Father, through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who loved us, and gave Himself not only for the chiefest of sinners (Saul of Tarsus) but for us all. Jesus Christ is rightly called our Savior and Lord, and greatly to be praised. Blessed be the Name of Jesus!”

Which can be found at http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falseteachingsexposed/diabolical3.htm#34

This does not match up with the plain words of Scripture, so I am called to reject your words as not from God. A true prophet of God would speak 100% truth and not the above false gospel. This is what scriptures says about those who preach a false gospel:

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
(Galatians 1: 8,9)

I believe you would presently benefit greatly from hearing those things the Lord has given us to speak, if you heard them mixed with faith.

If the Lord truly gave you the words in question, they would have matched His Word as recorded in scripture.

“24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

“37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

[Matthew 13:24-30,37-43 - KJV]

“31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand(His sheep), Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand(the goats), Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
[Matthew 25:31-46 - KJV]

“…16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
[John 3:16-21 - KJV]

“1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”
[Daniel 12:1-3 - KJV]

Not all men will receive everlasting life. Why do you deny the word of God?

“9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
[Romans 8:9 - KJV]

Not all men have the Spirit of Christ. Why do you deny the word of God?

“..7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.”
[2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 - KJV]

“…10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
[2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 - KJV]

“…9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
[Revelation 14:9-11 - KJV]

“…8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”
[Revelation 17:8 - KJV]

“…12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
[Revelation 20:12-15 - KJV]

Not all men are written in the Book of Life. Why do you deny the word of God?

“…6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
[Revelation 21:6-8 - KJV]

You seem to just bypass all of these plain and clear scriptures which refute your diabolical and false gospel. I looked through your “Reconciliation of All Things” article at http://www.thepathoftruth.com/writings/reconciliation.htm and notice you don’t quote any of the above passages. I wonder why?

The warnings against false prophets is severe. Confess your sin, repent and believe in the true gospel preached by Jesus Christ and not this false gospel of universalism.

http://simply-christian.org/blog/most-important-question/

I will pray for your repentance,

Brandon Giromini

P.S. You can only reproduce this email in it’s entirety. Only including excerpts is strictly prohibited.

(Copyright Brandon Giromini 2006. This message may only be reproduced in it’s entirety, meaning copy the whole thing!)

2 Responses to “Refuting Universalism, part 1”

  1. Unfortunately, the Christian Universalists have some pretty clever ways around the obvious scriptures that we would normally use to refute these things. Many of them believe in Hell, but only as a temporary place. Everybody gets out, including the devil. The worse you were, the more time you spend in Hell. Yes I know, it’s almost a Catholic purgatory concept, isn’t it.

    So what you have to do is prove that Hell is a permanent place. They try to get around this by saying the Greek word for eternity (Aeon, Aeonian) really means “age lasting”. That’s actually true, but they say “an age” can never last for forever, we say it can.

    I’ve written some more about my experience with a Universalist, on this page:
    http://www.oldtruth.com/blog.cfm/id.2.pid.245

    I hope that can help somebody out.

    –Jim

  2. You wrote:You seem to just bypass all of these plain and clear scriptures which refute your diabolical and false gospel. I looked through your “Reconciliation of All Things” article at http://www.thepathoftruth.com/writings/reconciliation.htm and notice you don’t quote any of the above passages. I wonder why?

    Gary: Probably for the same reason YOU don’t quote passages plainly declaring Universal Salvation when you are trying to prove God is going to torture most of mankind. Furthermore, he may be using better translations than yours which do NOT have all the false Hell passges in them. For your information, there are scores of Bible translations in which you won’t find the word Hell once! And even the most hellish newer translations admit the word Hell doesn’t appear in the entire Old Testament so you won’t find in the NIV, NRSV, NASB for example. The reason Jews don’t believe in a Hell of everlasting punishment is because it is NOT IN THEIR BIBLE, it is only is MIStranslated Christian Bibles. One day that error will disappear from all Bible translations. Then YOU will be asked to “repent.” Hope that day is soon.

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